|Vol. 6, No. 2 - June 2010
Joseph F. Buchanan
This issue focuses on how to make sense of the family ancestry that appears in the new FamilySearch system.
I assume some of you have taken a look and possibly have had some questions. I have quite a bit to explain concerning what I have learned and what we all need to know about our information that is shown. So here goes...
Go to https://new.familysearch.org
If you have not ever been in the system, you need to create a new login and password. You do this by clicking on "Register for the new FamilySearch." Be sure to choose the LDS option. Fill out the form there and set up a login and password. You will need your church membership number and your birthdate. These systems are eventually going to be synchronized so that the same login and password works for all LDS websites (e.g. ward, mission application, etc.).
Log in and see your personal page.
Notice that there is a place called, "Sign in to Help Someone Else." This is where you can enter in as a family member or friend. Normally, you will not see any living people names in your area, except for your spouse and children - not even your children's spouses, so to help anyone else who does not share your ancestry, you will need to sign in as that person. You will need their membership number and their birthdate as well (if you wish to do this).
Click on "See Me and My Ancestors."
This is where the fun begins. You can go anywhere in the system here and see generations and families. There are a number of links, buttons, etc., where you can see things, add information and even submit names for temple work.
This, however, is also where a lot of confusion can come. This system contains a composite of many different kinds of records that the church has, all put together in one. The problem, is that is some areas, particularly in Scandinavia, there are many similar names, so the system brings a lot together that should not be brought together. They are always marked with symbols that indicate additional spouses, parents, etc. There are also cases where many extra people are added to families who do not belong.
The options you have for these extraneous, erroneous people are to dispute them, or the just select the one you want to use (mark as the one you always want to see), but there is no option for deleting them, even when they are so obviously incorrect. Hans Jacobson is listed with the correct wife, but they are listed with five additional children, all of which are listed as being born many years before he was born. When I look at the family, I cannot remove those names, only dispute their validity. In theory, you can contact the person who placed the records in the first place, and have them (if they agree with you) remove them from the family. In all cases, the "owner" us either the LDS church, or an unknown person, usually from the ancestral file. The system seems to place these people in families when there are similar names, because usually the details are very minimal (e.g. no exact birth date, and little else).
When there are multiple sets of parents listed for someone, for example. Anders Peter Anderson, I can mark the correct parents as the ones I wish to view, but it does not affect anyone else in our family. Therefore, I am going to work through all of the genealogy of the family and note these incorrect family members and indicate to you all how to set the correct people so you can see the correct ancestry as you go into the system.
The following are directions for what you do to make these corrections in your own new.familysearch.org directory. After that, and in future notices, I will show which ones you need to fix for your view.
1. Go into the Family Pedigree with Details view (possibly the default for you as you start - see "Change View" at the top left).
Click on the asterisk that appears to the left of the parents' names.
2. The following screen shows the parents listed for that person.
Choose the correct set of parents and click on "Always show the selected parents." then click Continue.
From now on those will be the correct parents for our family.
You probably need to do these in order, or else it may not be possible to easily find the correct people as you go up the pedigree chart. I hope to give them to you in proper order.
NOTE: before you start working on temple ordinances for those that show us as needing them, I have temple ordinance dates on pretty much everyone in the ancestry. It will take me a while, but I hope to get these people matched up with some other duplicates where the temple work has been done. Don't get too anxious yet. This is not where the work needs to be done, generally.
Here is the first batch of fixes, with detailed information on each set of parents.
1. Find Inger Sorensen. She is the mother of Maren Hansen, Eddie Mathias Jacobson's paternal grandmother.
The parents of Inger Sorensen (chosen parents marked with X) - Always show the selected parents.
Soren (Ravn) Pedersen 1738 of Synge, Soro, Den. Malene Mogensdr about 1735 of Lynge, Soro, Den. X Soren Simonsen about 1749 Maalov, Cpnhgn, Denmark Anna Hansen about 1753 Maalov, Cpnhgn, Denmark2. Find Anders Peter Anderson, the father of Sarah Delilah Anderson Jacobson.
Peder Christian Andersen 23 August 1819 Blokhus, Hune, Hjorring, Denmark Caroline (Karen) Lund (Nielsen) 7 December 1813 Saltum, Hjorring, Denmark X Jens Andersen 7 January 1822 Orslev, Kragerup, Holbaek, Denmark Ane Pedersen Andersen (Jorgensen) 18 March 1824 Sonderup, Aarslev, Denmark Peder Christian Andersen 23 August 1819 Blokhus, Hune, Hjorring, Denmark Ane Pedersen Andersen (Jorgensen) 18 March 1824 Sonderup, Aarslev, Denmark3. Find Jens Anderson, father of Anders Peter Anderson.
X Anders Larsen 1767 Sonderup,Soro,Denmark Sidse MARIE Knudsen 1789 Tuse,Holbaek,Denmark Anders Larsen 1767 Sonderup,Soro,Denmark Maren Knudsen Larsen Anders Larsen about 1724 of Orslev, Soro, Denmark Anne Pedersen 1720 Orslev, Holbaek, Denmark4. Find Ane Pedersen, mother of Anders Peder Anderson
X Peder Jorgensen 23 March 1794 Sonderup, (Aarslev), Soro, Denmark Kirsten Hansen 20 January 1799 Olsomagle, Copenhagen, Denmark Peder MADSEN about 1642 Lumbsaas, Holbaek, Den. Kirsten Hansen about 1684 Isterod, Frederiksborg, Denmark Peder Jensen 29 March 1767 Asminderod, Frederiksborg, Denmark Karen Marie Hansen 1766 Asminderod, Parrish, Fredericksborg, Denmark5. Find Anders Larsen, father of Jens Andersen (person 3 above).
Lars Andersen 4 March 1737 Nordrup, Soro, Dnmrk Anna Henrichsdatter about 1739 of Sonderup, Soro, Den. X Lars Andersen 4 March 1737 Nordrup, Soro, Dnmrk Inger Christensen about 1745 Lars Mortensen Sidse Hansen MortensenThe data is not all correct (he was born 6 Nov. 1740 in Sonderup, but I cannot fix that).
6. Find Sidse Marie Knudsen, mother of Jens Andersen (person 3).
The parents of Sidse Marie Knudsen are probably pointing correctly, but to be sure, here is the choice:
X Knud Ibsen about 1736 Tudse, Holbaek, Denmark Inger Larsdatter about 1758 of Hagested, Hlbk, Dnmr Knud Ibsen about 1736 Tudse, Holbaek, Denmark Inger Larsen7. Find Lars Andersen, father of Anders Larsen (#5 above)
Anders Jensen about 1697 of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark Mette Hansen about 1704 OF Slagstrup,STMkkls,Soro,Dnmr Anders Jensen about 1699 of Sonderup, Soro, Den. Lisbeth 1718 Anders Jensen about 1697 of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark Lisbeth 1718 X Anders Jensen about 1699 of Sonderup, Soro, Den. Lisbeth about 1703 of Sonderup, Soro, Den. Anders Jensen 1699 Lisbeth 1718 Anders Jensen about 1697 of Tygelse, Sorterup, Soro, Denmark Lisbeth about 1703 of Sonderup, Soro, Den. Jensen Anders Lisbeth anders jensen lisbeth8. Find Ane Borgesen, maternal grandmother of Anders Larsen (#5 above)
X Borge Borgensen about 1680 of Sorterup, Soro, Den. Inger about 1683 of Sorterup, Soro, Den. Byrge Byrgesen [Unknown]9. Find Peder Jorgensen, father of Ane Pedersen (#4 above)
X Jorgen Christensen 25 March 1736 Aarslev,,, Denmark Mette Pedersen about 1768 Sonderup, Soro, Denmark Jorgen Jensen Sudere Maren Hansdr10. Find Kirsten Hansen, mother of Ane Pedersen (#4 above)
X Hans Jensen 11 March 1764 Hejninge, Soro, Denmark Ane Marie Andersdatter about 1772 Hansted, Skanderborg, Den. Hans Larsen Karen Jensdr11. Find Jorgen Christensen, father of Peder Jorgensen (#9 above)
Christen Hansen about 1740 Aarslev, Sonderup, Denmark Karen Olsen about 1741 Aarslev, Sonderup, Denmark Christen Pedersen Inger Maria Jorgensdatter X Christensen Hansen 1710 Arslev,, Denmark Karen Olsen 1714 , Arslev, Denmark12. Find Mette Pedersen, mother of Peder Jorgensen (#9 above)
Peder Madsen 1709 of Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Dnmr Anna Christensen 1740 Sonderup, Soro, Denmark X Peder Madsen 1730 Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Denmark Anna Christensen 1740 Sonderup, Soro, Denmark Peder Madsen 1730 Aarslev, Sonderup, Soro, Denmark Anna Christensen 1 November 1738 Lindrup,, Denmark Peter Madsen 1709 Soro, Denmark Anna Christensen 1740 Sonderup, Soro, Denmark Peder Madsen [Unknown] Peder Madsen [Unknown]13. Find Hans Jensen, father of Kirsten Hansen (# 10 above)
Jens Hansen 25 November 1725 Hejninge, Soro, Denmark Mrs. Hansen about 1742 Hejninge, Soro., Den. X Jens Jensen about 1721 of Leelti, Bloustrod, Frederiksborg, Den. Ane Poulsdatter about 1727 Huninge,,, Denmark [Unknown] [Unknown Name]The data is incorrect as shown, Jens Jensen was born in Hejninge, Soro, Denmark, which is one of the many places listed for the second person, but the wife is correct.
14. Find Ane Marie Andersen, mother of Kirsten Hansen (#10 above). There has been a lot of research done on her line and I will work on making sure that is what the family sees on the new FamilySearch.
The parents of Ane Marie Andersen
Anders Jensen 1751 Tolstrup, Skanderborg, Denmark Edel Andersen 1751 Raadved, Skndrb,, Denmark X And Pind about 1750 of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr Maren hansdatter 1746 ,, Prob Denmark And Pind about 1750 of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr Margretha Jensen about 1754 of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr Anders Sorensen 1742 Sonder, Nedley, Denmark Maren hansdatter 1746 ,, Prob Denmark And Pind about 1750 of Ottestrup, Soro, Dnmr Margretha JensenHis name is really Anders Jensen Pind, but this is close enough for now. The Pind name goes back about 6 more generations.
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That is it for now. Most of these do require you and everyone in the family to find and select the correct set of parents. A few, as noted, are OK, but if at some point the order of the possible parents in the list gets changed or some other parents get added to the list, the correct one may not continue to be the one you see as you go into the pedigree chart on new FamilySearch.
So far, I have not found these kinds of problems in the non-Danish lines. I believe that the way the common names are so often used, and the patronymics confuse things as well - that is probably why this is the case. Also, our ancestry has been known for so many generations and so many family members have turned in 4-generation sheets, so the Ancestral File has many, many duplicates with slight differences. Something I can do if you are interested, is to perhaps print up a copy of what I have for direct line pedigree charts and family group records for some of you so key family members and see for themselves what the lines are supposed to look like. Also, I am sure that many of you have some collection of pedigree charts, etc., so mine may yet differ from yours. I expect that some questions may come up as to the veracity of my records and I expect to do some continuing research in microfilm records to help correct these errors. Correcting them in new.familysearch.org, however will be another task.